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Atheist Bus Advert – update

The Australian atheist bus campaign dispute is finally going to tribunal. The ABC news reports:

A dispute over Metro Tasmania’s refusal to display anti-religious advertisements on its buses has been set down for a conciliation hearing.

As the lawyer for the Atheist Foundation of Australia said:

“Clearly it means that the commissioner has determined that there is a case to answer by Metro for why they have refused to accept the advertising services that have been sought from Metro by the Atheist Foundation”

According to the abc news site: “The conciliation hearing will take place in August.”

Till then…

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Atheist Bus Campaign at the Brits?

The question was put by the delectable Ariane Sherine whether the following video was referencing the Atheist Bus Campaign. What do you think?

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Feckin Hypocrites

Seems the Christians are going to counter the UK atheist bus campaign with their own campaign.

The new campaign is organsied by the Christian Party, the Trinitarian Bible Society and the Russian Orthodox Church. Their pro-God campaigns will run on 175 buses for two weeks from Monday.

Now I have no problem with this, free speech, no censorship and all that, what I do have a problem with is the hypocrisy coming from elements of the religious  community.

Last month the Advertising Standards Authority received almost 150 complaints that the atheist bus campaign was offensive to Christians, and that the “no God” claim could not be substantiated. [emphasis mine]

For a start, the atheist advert actually says “There’s probably no God”, note the word probably. I have been led to understand that probably was specifically added to counter any complaints that it was being asserted that God definitely does not exist. But still some brain dead morons had to complain and try and get the adverts removed because they were making an unsubstantiated claim.

What some religious people also still don’t seem to have gotten through their thick heads, is that the atheist bus campaign was started in response to religious adverts that basically threatened all non-beleivers to hell and damnation. But now three religious groups have decided they need to counter the atheist adverts, as if we started the ‘fight’. Lets hope this isn’t going to spiral out of control in some sort of claim/counter-claim bus advertising smackdown.

So what is the problem I have with the Christian bus advertising claim? Well, these are two of the three adverts planned:

“There definitely is a God. So join the Christian Party and enjoy your life.”

and

“There IS a God, BELIEVE. Don’t worry and enjoy your life.”

Do you see the problem? I’ll make it clearer by bolding the problematic wording.

“There definitely is a God.”, and “There IS a God” (and the second one was made easy as they capitalised it). Now I don’t know about you, but to me both of those statements are 100% unsubstantiated claims. Both claims have left no room for question (unlike the atheist one which used the word “probably”) they are bold statements that God exists, as a fact. Well I for one have never seen any evidence for God’s existence, have you?

This is where my heading, Feckin Hypocrites, comes from. Members of the religious community accuse the atheist bus campaign of unsubstantiated claims and then make an even bigger more unsubstantiated claim. Hypocrites!

The third Christian advert is going to be:

“The fool hath said in his heart, there is no God”  taken from Psalm 53:1

Well all I can say to that is:

… but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire. taken from Matthew 5:22

Who’s the fool now?


Hat Tip to AtheistBus for the link to the article in the Guardian, from whence the above quotes come from, and to drunkenmadman for finding the Matthew 5:22 bible link.

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Jesus is the answer…

WTF was the question?

The Atheist Foundation of Australia (AFA) are currently asking people to be on the lookout for any religious adverts; particularly on buses, billboards, or other media managed by APN.

Here’s a sample taken on the Pacific Highway near Hexham/Sandgate, you can also see it on Google Maps (though its a bit out of focus). It is unknown at this stage who the advertising company is that manages these particular billboards. If anyone knows please let me know.

jesus_billboard

As you should be aware by now the AFA was planning on conducting an Atheist Bus Campaign similar to the ones in the UK, USA and Spain. However APN has refused to carry the adverts.  The AFA has decided to pursue redress of the APN Outdoor ‘rejection’ with the Victorian Human Rights and Equal Opportunity Commission. If the AFA find any evidence of APN carrying religious advertising then this can be used as evidence in the case. Therefore it would be appreciated if all Australians could be on the lookout for religious advertising carried by APN. If anyone sees any religious advertising please let the AFA know by contacting them on their forum, or by leaving a comment here.

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Atheist Bus Campaign – Italian Style

Now the Italians have got involved in an atheist bus campaign.

For those of you that can read Italian:

http://www.uaar.it/uaar/campagne/bus/

For smucks like me that can only read English, here’s googles attempt at translating the above page:

http://translate.google.com.au/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.uaar.it%2Fuaar%2Fcampagne%2Fbus%2F&sl=it&tl=en&hl=en&ie=UTF-8

By the way if anyone else thinks APN (the company that runs most outdoor and transit advertising in Australia, which has in the past run religious adverts) are being obstinate in refusing to host atheist adverts here in Australia, please do what I did and leave a little note for them on their web site. Just fill in the contact form with any old details then give them a serve in the comment text box.

The above thoughts and opinions are Oz Atheist’s only are in no way associated with any organisation.

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Atheist Bus Campaign

The UK Atheist Bus Campaign was mentioned on the ABC TV news tonight. The article even discussed how there had been an attempt to have an Atheist Bus Campaign in Australia which had failed. For those like me that missed it, Protium kindly supplied the link so we can all watch it online.

So there I was doing a bit of Internet surfing waiting for Protium to get back to me, then watching the video, when I realised RocKwiz must be on. So went and had a look, they were doing a segment where the contestants had to guess the next line of a song and who sang it. The song was “The Lord’s Prayer” by Sister Janet Mead [I knew the next two lines], the host turned to one of the other contestants and said “how come you didn’t get that?” His reply shrug of shoulders “atheist”. Then at the end of the show, just as the credits finished, they replayed “atheist”. To watch this online go here and watch episode 74.

It’s so heartening to see more and more people publicly admit they are atheists, and probably more importantly that they can say it without fear of religious nutbags crucifying them.

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Atheist Advertising too Controversial in Australia

In previous posts I’ve discussed how the Atheist Foundation of Australia (AFA) are trying in vain to place adverts on buses around Australia. Well now they have lodged a complaint with the Tasmanian Anti-discrimination Commissioner.

The Atheist Foundation of Australia Inc is to complain to the Tasmanian Anti-discrimination Commissioner following the refusal of Metro Tasmania, a State owned bus company, to display its advertisements.

President of the Foundation, David Nicholls said: “Following legal advice we have decided to lodge the complaint. It is unfortunate the AFA has to go down this path to achieve justice. However, there is no grudge involved here, just a simple matter of what is right.”

David Nicholls said atheists worldwide have an important message for humanity and one that is quite urgent. He said the denial of an opportunity to express that message on Public Transport had possibly resulted from unfounded concerns in executive decision making. Mr Nicholls said he expected a good outcome to the complaint and envisaged the slogan, “Atheism – Celebrate reason! Sleep in on Sunday mornings” to soon be on a bus near you.

Hobart lawyer James Crotty has been retained to advise on the complaint.

hat tip to Sean

In more news of discrimination against atheists and free speech comes this piece of news from Albury-Wodonga. Kieran saw a good deal for classified adverts in his local newspaper so decided he’d post an atheist message:

The Border Mail has a classifieds deal on, $1.10 a line for a Christmas greeting. I rang up, and requested the following:

Christians, There probably is no god, so stop worrying and enjoy life – Kieran.

The lady at the other end said “No”.

Surprise, surprise, they wouldn’t accept it.  If the Border Mail is anything like my local rag, The Star, it will be filled with religious adverts, so why not one tiny atheist one?

In fact page 18 of The Star, dated 17 December, is a whole page advertising feature for Christmas church services. There are two letters, one from the Catholic Bishop and one from the Anglican Bishop, and eleven (11) pictorial adverts for various churches and their Christmas services. I don’t’ have a problem with that, if they’ve paid, they are fully entitled to, I’ll just ignore that page. However if the same newspaper refuses to place an atheist (or even a hindu, muslim or other religion) advert then that is discrimination, censorship and denial of free speech.

Kieran has asked for others to try and place an atheist message in his local paper and has even offered to pay for it:

If anyone manages to sneak a good atheist message into the Border Mail’s Christmas greetings, I’ll pay for it.

Intersting idea, and hat tip to The Atheist Blogger.

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